they have strict gun control laws in connecticut. here in utah, we've been doing this for 12 years and this is nothing new and we have one of the most permissive states for firearms and we haven't had school shootings either. >> you mentioned the ban on specific types of guns. what about banning certain types of ammunition? what about limiting certain types of ammunition, can you see the need in that? no, it's not going do any could, if i thought it would, it would. if someone can show me definitively. who needs a 30-round clip? >> why would you -- why would you even go there? >> that's a legitimate question. who needs a 30-round clip and why? >> it's not -- it's not a matter who needs something. if i need it or if i want it and can operate safely then -- we're talking about --? why would you want a 30-round clip. >> i used a 30-round magazine because i didn't want to reload. it's not a matter of need. it's a matter of want. i mean, we're talking less than 1% of the semiautomatic rifles with these 30-round magazines are use in any cr